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Awesome colours and fighting hands make for a good game : P. I think there's a lot of potential in the WiiGlove thing, if it ends up working. I also thought it was good you guys looked at past technology as inspiration and forewarning.
ReplyDeleteOverall, 80%.
H-igh D-istinction! : D
a good presentation with a nice website aswell.
ReplyDeletei think the wii gesture glove is a really good idea and the way you described how it works i thought was really well done also the animations were a very nice touch to demonstrate the games and the glove in action it is clear you put alot of effort into to this...but i would like to say that although the game and glove are very very good they just seem to be improvements on existing techniology and game so you miss out on the originality also it seems that because the gesture glove only creates gestures that will limit the use of it outside the world of extreme paper scissors rock. maybe work on ways to improve the way the glove could interact with new or existing games. otherwise i think the multiplayer aspect is good aswell as adding all the other combos you can have in the game...so
yeah D for distinction
Nice idea, a lot of effort clearly went into this presentation.
ReplyDeleteIt did seem more like you designed a peripheral and then designed a game around that. I felt more effort could have gone into the design of the game, rather than the glove. Still, great idea on the glove - you went into a great deal of detail, it was clearly well thought about.
As it stands now, the game doesn't really encourage performance from the players - it's hard to think of how this could be implemented though, with such small gestures.
It's social insofar as you can only play it with another player, but it's difficult to see how you could get very emotionally invested in the game.
The good thing about using such small gestures, which are then mimicked on the screen, is that you minimise the mind-body conflict. However this also means that you've minimised the positive aspects of activating the mind-body loop.
Credit
Thanks Lisa,
ReplyDeleteI dont think the presentation made clear how the game is played. The idea is that the game is quite rapid despite the demonstration being quite slow moving. Also another thing i forgot to cover was the calibration options of the glove and relevant gestures.
But you are rgiht, the game was designed around the glove and it is a good point that you made about the emotional investment in the game because i hadnt even thought of that until you pointed it out.
I wanna congratulate you guys on your idea. I liked the way you guys took a more modern approach to an old classic. ALthough i think yous might have put too much emphasis on the product (being the glove) rather than the game idea. It just doesnt seem to require that much exersion.
ReplyDeleteI hope i dont seem harsh but im gona be honest and give yous a Credit
Well i'm going to start of by saying that I agree that this game isn't a very physically tiring and exerting game for as far as exertion games go. However, neither was our game. Someone has to cater for the community who can't get up and jump around (the wheelchair bound and morbidly obese). And besides, this leaves it open for the people who can run around and jump to add in their own performance qualities into playing the game.
ReplyDeleteI can see that you put quite a bit of effort into this project and did well to justify why your Gesture Glove is better than the Power Glove.
Extra marks for the different game modes.
And although the idea isn't completely original, i enjoy playing an old classic under new circumstances or with modified or adapted rules so bonus marks for that :)
:Distinction
The concept of Wii Rock Paper Scissors doesn't really appeal to me personally, but the idea is certainly there. Concentration on the gesture glove was probably important to ephasise the gameplay style that your idea would have if it were made.
ReplyDeleteDistinction (70-75)
Good use of the glove and the many permutations of the human hand. Definitely increases the fun factor for all players although the movement of fingers in general shouldn't be counted as truly exhausting, as far as physical exertion goes.
ReplyDeleteDistinction. Well done.
My mark: CR
ReplyDeleteI don’t see much of a motivation to go and buy all this glove hardware and to have to bother using it just to have this virtual game layer added onto games such as rock-paper-scissors, In my opinion rock-paper-scissors is not really fun (it’s usually used to solve disputes or arguments) and having the addition of all this technology looks like it could make it a bit more interesting but not by much.
-Leigh.
CR
ReplyDeleteI think designing a peripheral and then a game around that wasnt the smartest way to design because in the end you limited yourself. That being said, you showed that with the limits of technology you were able to come up with a fun looking game for the hardware.
Physical Exertion
ReplyDeleteA physical game, wouldn't really bring a sweat but still sufficient.
Mind Body conflict
Well balanced, particularly with the extreme version where there are many options to consider.
Mind Body Loop
Good use & take on equipment already available which satisfies the mind.
Emotion
I can see how the emotion of fun was considered as with most of the games and competing with another player could be fun, particularly trying to compete and "mess" with them.
Social
Defintely a social game which could be quite fun with some friends, drinks and a lot of laughs. More gloves, more players I assume?
Perfomance
This has been described well in your presentation & on your website. Easy to play but possibly also easy to tire of. The EXTREME version does add more of an "interest factor" however.
Originality
Not very original, and also, why bother buying the glove when you can play an extreme version without one. Admittedly you can't "bash" the opponents points down though...
Style
Nice use of colour and some good visual aids.
Presentation
Spoken & put together well with some nice visual aids. Sweet.
Website
A bit too much about the power glove maybe??? Were you worried about copyright? Format was okay, not great but it was still quite informative in it's description.
Marks
Physical Exertion: 6/10
Mind Body Conflict: 7/10
Mind Body Loop: 8/10
Social: 8.5/10
Emotion: 7.5/10
Performance: 7/10
Originality: 6/10
Style: 6/10
Presentation: 8/10
Website: 7.5/10
Overall, that gives you 71.5% which is a D
Comparing it to an existing product was a good move because you can work out what went wrong with their designs an improve your own. I love the game paper scissors rock and being able to play this virtually could be very fun. Since you have developed "extreme" and "extreme 15" this will allow more variety to the game creating more intense battles within the players. Overall i give you a High Distinction
ReplyDeleteyour idea was pretty rad, i like that you took rock paper scissors and made it into so much more ha. the levels of extreme are excellent, and i really respect that you've taken something as bland as rock paper scissors and made it something brutal ha.
ReplyDeleteyou guys put loads of work into this and it shows. great job guys.
Score: D
When i first saw the menu, i though of the dangers of epilepsy. But i do love RPS, great visual style, nice presentation. However i would love to see what you do with the analog, maybe turn it into a semi-platformer?
ReplyDeleteStill a Distinction.
Ha, yes, thankyou, i did design the menu with seizures in mind, i was actually going to make a joke about it during the presentation but i was too sleep deprived at the time :P
ReplyDeleteAs a lot of people have already said, the emphasis is on the glove rather than the game. Apart from the snazzy visuals there seems to be little incentive to play this rather than actual rock-paper-scissors. That being said the glove is rather good.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you could use the glove in a fighting style game? Like a Dragon Ball Z game, using the glove to fire energy attacks.
hhhhmmmmmmm...C
Yeah, other guys are right. Maybe you focus to much about game console rather than a game design. How ever your idea about the power gloves. It's could be used if it is real. I think this gloves will get a big target in Wii game world. And..70 (D) for your idea.
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wowwwwww ur flash is awesome!
ReplyDeletethink your game needs more exertion... jst to point that out.
overall...
idea: 3/5
exertion: 2/5
social: 4/5
performance: 3/5
emotion: 2/5
presentation: 4/5
website: 4/5
score: credit
You have imagined a very interesting peripheral, it would be cool to see something like this actually happen perhaps in the next generation of consoles. Even if it is based off the power glove. Your game does seem a little bland however. Rock paper scissors is not very entertaining for extended periods of time. And the extended chart would seems quite confusing for beginners, I know its for advanced players, but accessibility is a big issue for games, and some of the gestures are very similar. Your pitch was very nicely presented and the animation was well done. Your website is interesting, but the flashing animation is a bit distracting, maybe change it to a static image, you want people to read your information, not get a seizure.
ReplyDeleteOverall, very nice. Credit.
Not a truly original concept, but the enhancements that you guys made, take it to the extreme. It has the potential to be a very competitive game, but the novelty of continually playing Scissors, Paper, Rock may wear off pretty quickly.
ReplyDelete71/100.D
I have some beef, and i have some praise.
ReplyDeleteI'll start with the beef.
Basically the game is not very original, nor very exterting. Rock paper scissors can get very tedious, even with a tasty revamping.
Aight, now on with the praise.
The glove. The glove is awesome. The Power Glove was fail, the Gesture glove seems f***** awesome. I think this peripheral could be used for a great many games, rather than rock paper scissors, although is see what you were trying to do. I would play rock paper scissors on it, but i just think that you guys can think of something better.
Physical Exertion: 4/10
Mind Body Conflict: 8/10
Mind Body Loop: 6/10
Social: 8/10
Emotion: 6/10
Performance: 8/10
Originality: 7/10
Style: 9/10
Presentation: 9/10
Website: 8/10
methinks thats a D
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ReplyDeleteGood presentation and website. The game itself is just another one that complicates a simple thing that could easily be done in a purely physical way and adds a CPU to it. The concept of the glove is unoriginal and is not going to add much to such a basic game. I've played Rock Paper Scissors with friends over the intenet - it gets boring quick and i didn't even have to pay for a glove. Despite being well presented it really doesn't have anything new.
Credit
I entirely agree with Tim,
ReplyDeleteBy just reading your description the gesture glove was hard to understand, but after seeing your flash it made sense. The game is simple but well executed; the inclusion of RPS-15, etc was definitely a good idea to improve the longevity.
After doing a bit of research about infrared, I think it’s suitable for your game but prolonged exposure to it can have health risks. I’m sure if you put a warning on the box you guys would have no troubles.
The game is not overly exciting, why would I want to purchase the glove and the game, when I could probably get as much enjoyment from playing it without? I think an answer to that question would have been nice in your presentation.
Future uses of the glove would have been a nice thing for you guys to explore as well.
HD: 80-100
D: 70-80
C: 60-70
P: 50-60
Fail: 0-49
Your score: 75 Distinction
Adrienne Giuliano 3236467 here 0____^
ReplyDeleteLoved the glove, game was a bit unoriginal, but the presentation made up for it. So heres da marking!
Physical Exertion: 3.5-4/10
Mind/Body Loop: 8/10
Sociability!: 8/10
Performance: 7.5/10
Emotion: 6-7/10
Originality:5.5/10
Style: 8/10
Presentation: 9/10
Website: 7.5/10
Overall, I give thee...dun dun dun! D!
i really liked this game idea it made me laugh i loved it coz i love play rock paper scissors its the best. HD for you children (:
ReplyDeleteok just a side note,
ReplyDeleteto anyone saying the game is unoriginal,
youre absoloutely right, i completely stole the idea from smash brothers.
to anyone saying its exactly the same as paper scissors rock, well, its not really, the first game is, but the extreme versions are like smash brothers, with hands that you control by swinging you arm and abilities that you execute by making gestures.
i know that wasnt made completely clear in the presentation but thats the point :D
I can see quite an effort put into this work. Saw how you photoshopped all the hand gesture. Unfortunately, did not quite seem to have any exertion at all. I can go making gestures all day and I would not break a sweat. Also, much like everyone else thinks, rock,paper, scissors is not a game that have a very good lifespan, only time I use it is to settle the matter of "Who goes first" no matter how "extreme" it is I would not play it very often.
ReplyDeleteSorry :(
(Credit)
genius.
ReplyDeleteJust thinking about making all sorts of crazy gestures with that glove is fun. The flash presentation was tops and explained very well.
high distinction
Quick review.
ReplyDeleteWii Sports doesn't look that great on paper, but it too was designed around an original control scheme.
I think it's awesome, I think the Extreme version would be frantic, fun and funny and the glove itself seems really clever.
>High Distinction<
This is great. You've taken what is traditionally a very sedentary game and applied motivation for more physical involvement. I also think you put a lot of effort into your presentation.
ReplyDeleteOnly downside is that casual players would probably want to get out of a glove as soon as possible. Maybe you could utilize some sort of camera system like the one Microsoft just announced.
Overall an excellent idea.
8/10 = HD
I see this game as a digital referee for Rock Paper Scissors.
ReplyDeletePhysical Exertion
Not overly physically exerting, but surely better than the standard console controllers of yesteryear. But with wiimotes, balance boards, eye toys and the like, the opportunity to design more physically exerting games exists. The beating up of the other player does add a bit of physical exertion in there though.
Mind Body conflict
The standard rock paper scissors game does not provide too much of a mind body conflict. Adding the extreme mode, adds a good strategic element. RPS 15 adds a lot of complexity, and may be too confusing for new players, until they learn the system.
Social
A great social game, adding real world actions, that can determine the strength of your avatar. Adding a non-parallel aspect to a traditionally parallel game works well. This game has great social aspects.
Emotion
The emotional investment in this game ties in greatly with the social aspect. Playing against a computer would offer limited emotional investment.
Perfomance
This game has no real discernable performance aspects to it. Maybe a power mode like pulling a ‘Power Rangers’ pose could add extra attack bonuses.
Originality
A very unique take on making a physical game. Using an existing game and adding it to a digital environment isn’t entirely original. But adding the damage and battle system is a very creative addition.
Style
I like the floating gloves, very Disney/Warner Bros. And seeing as style and taste is subjective, you get bonus points for that. I would liked to have seen a mockup of what it would look like in 3D though.
Presentation
The presentation was very good, straight forward, and managed to get all the points across. Use of visuals to reinforce the message was great. Great flash animation.
Website
The website conveyed enough information to allow the reader to understand the game. Having the flash interactive and links to David Lovelace’s site were great.
Marks
Physical Exertion: 7/10
Mind Body Conflict/loop: 7/10
Social: 9/10
Emotion: 8/10
Performance: 7/10
Originality: 8/10
Style: 9/10
Presentation: 9/10
Website: 8/10
Conclusion: 8/10
Total 80/100
HD (High Distinction)
Scraped in for a High Distinction… I am considering lowering this mark if no food, drink or monkeys are offered to me by the end of today’s class.
I really love this idea, and of course your awwwwesome animations. We could see exactly what the game would be like to play and the emotions it would withdraw! Good work
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A very nice expansion of the power glove idea! a glove that utilizes the gestures people use is very smart, as gestures are among the simplest forms of human expression & therefore would be very easy to pick up. Not too pleased with the initial reuse of the rock, paper & scissors game but the extreme & the 15 modes take something old & gives it new life!I can imagine your glove being use in allot of different various in future games. My only complaint is the lack of using the middle finger!
ReplyDeleteI'm giving this a Distinction
s3200763- power glove is cool.
ReplyDeleteI'll give you a D. it seems like it would be a fun game
ReplyDeleteI don't see a good purpose to go buy a wiiglove to play rock, paper, scissors - not an exciting game to play to begin with. Love the animation to showcase it but did not convince me to actually want the wiiglove and the game to go with it.
ReplyDeleteIf you wanted to play an extreme rock, paper, scissor game - try the japanese version; at least someone can get hurt in that game
I give it a CR
This game was good but there really is not a great deal of exertion. The idea wasn't all that original either, and I hate to say it but other adaptations exist ^^. Click Here However with your use of different hand movements and your power glove made, it is more interesting. Your website is appealing and explains the game concept well.
ReplyDeleteYou get a distinction from me.
I think this would be replaced by Microsoft's Project Natal :P
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH_gDreIdcM
And like Bao Di stated above, buying a WiiGlove to play RPS isn't really a good idea, unless you played it online with people on the other side of the globe. But then again, RPS is only one example.
The glove idea wasn't too original but that doesn't really matter if you could come up with nice original games =p
Animations were well done. Colourful text on the website was a bit confusing >_<
I will give you a D. Good job.
Chad.
Not really too keen on playing a simple game like this on my wii, or anything else for that matter. I mean why would I buy a peripheral for a game I could play with my hands. I really dont see a point in this game and all the other modes don't really make up for it. Cool animations in the presentation though. 5.5/10
ReplyDeleteHey guys,
ReplyDeleteI want to say that I thought this idea was reeeeally awesome when you first presented it to the class.
The game ideas you could have made with this are endless.
Being controller of your own world and such like that..
But the fact you just went with paper scissors rock (and extreme paper scissors rock) was a bit of a let down for me.
I think if you worked on a more original concept for the game i would have given you a higher mark.
And made it more exerting.
However in saying this the different hang gestures were pretty cool. the gun one caught my eye the most haha
because of my thoughts above i'm going to give you guys a Credit.
As the actual GAME concept itself wasnt that original nor exerting. Sorry :( haha
I like the idea of a new gaming peripheral, but this seemed pretty similar to the powerglove. I know the powerglove was your inspiration, but your idea didnt seem to stretch too far from it. The games you listed it seemed pretty dull. Somthing you'd play for free on the net at 2am when you're bored, not something you'd pay for.
ReplyDeleteThe presentation was ok and the website is decent.
Score: Credit
Here's a video for you. You've probably seen it.
Angry Video Game Nerd: Powerglove
http://www.screwattack.com/AVGN/2006/PowerGlove
Physical Exertion: 7/10
ReplyDeleteMind Body Conflict: 8/10
Mind Body Loop: 8/10
Social: 9/10
Emotion: 7/10
Performance: 8/10
Originality: 7/10
Style: 7/10
Presentation: 8/10
Website: 7/10
I found myself wanting to play this game! I really liked it and it looks like it could do well if put on the market.
Overall: D :D
Carla
rock paper scissor with a glove that allows you to hit the other the glove is probably just an unfair version of rock, paper scissors. I think you should've left rock paper scissors alone in general. The chart you showed with all the elements of attack looked really interesting, unfortunately it was not fleshed out enough in the presentation. Also low level of exertion.
ReplyDeleteGrade: C
You know, I always loved playing rock-paper-scissors, and this seems like more entertaining way to go about playing it.
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ReplyDeleteOverall everything wasn’t bad. I understood what was being said, website makes sense, and presentation was well done. The game though I’m not too sure about. Even in real life this game is only played to make quick decisions. I think its lacking on the actual visual game aspect. If you could have made the game more visual appealing and stimulating and mentally challenging then it would have been gr8.
The idea of how the glove works thought is good and I can see a few other uses for it that might be fun.
I’ve decided to ditch the mark allocation list. From the presentation and what I think I’m able to give a mark that I think is fair.
Final mark
C - Credit
This game has some interesting ideas. I cant see this been to much of a social craze and really doesn't have much to offer in getting the player to keep wanting to play it after a few attempts. Also its not to physical and it reminds me of the failed Nintendo power glove.
ReplyDeletemark: C
Echoing everyone else's sentiments that you did v. well on the peripheral development (Y). I also like how you have taken a simple, ubiquitous game and taken it further with the use of technology - pretty innovative thinking. However, the issue lies primarily in practice - was it necessary to enhance such a game, or does it just over-complicate things? Necessary or not, an interesting idea all the same. Also not much physical exertion involved, and could also be very short-lived in a social context. Mind/body conflict was definitely addressed, and animations/website were excellent. I give you a D.
ReplyDeleteVery good game! was gonna suggest the "hardcore paper rock scissor" game but you already thought of it.
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interesting way to use super powers/ elements in the extreme scissors paper rock
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You get points for researching existing products - The Powerglove and the Wii (and the game of Rock, Paper, Scissors) and taking the successful elements and combining them
ReplyDeleteThe website is informative
The presentation, especially the animation, was spiff
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